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Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC
Hi,
This has all been very helpful, and actually consistent with what I've
heard about using a MAC, especially with Parallel. Maybe I should try
it. Now, any particular MAC to recommend?
Thanks,
Walt
Stefano Costalli wrote:
well...guys..the issue seems to be of interest to many people!
I got some precious information. Thanks a lot for the moment!
S.
-----Original message-----
From: David Airey [email protected]
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:20:39 +0200
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: st: Stata on Mac or PC
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On OS X Leopard, you can create a Windows partition on your HD and
boot natively to XP or Vista as you like. In this instance it is truly
a WIndows PC, and actually beats a number of Windows PCs in
performance. Alternatively, you can buy WIndows emulation software
(Parallels is my favorite) that allows you to run OSs side by side,
and actually copy and paste between windows and mac applications. This
mode is a little slower, but is faster than slow PC chips running
natively, and is very convenient. I run SAS Proc Mixed via Parallels
and Mplus and I have had no issues. Currently not all SAS products
support Vista, so you will want to run XP until 9.2 comes out. With
regard to Microsoft Office 2008 for the Mac, the latest update
(12.1.1, I think) fixes a lot of bugs that made passing files back and
forth with Office 2007 (like missing spaces). MS Office 2008 doesn't
have visual basic support for Excel like MS Office 2007 does, although
MS promised to put it "back in", how kind. So there are some issues,
but they are disappearing as I write...I think the key to most
potential switchers is the Windows is still available on the mac. Most
find they gravitate towards spending most of their time in Leopard
when they do buy a mac. Stata is great on the mac, and will be more so
when the 64 bit version comes out. One thing that bothers me is the
high cost to Stata with 8 cores. More cores are the future of
computing, so is the future of Stata higher prices???
On Jun 26, 2008, at 10:07 AM, Data Analytics Corp. wrote:
Good morning,
I've been watching the exchange on this issue. I'm more curious
right now about Phil's statement that "you can even run Linux or
Windows (without a performance penalty and without dual-booting) if
you need to" on an Intel MAC machine. I'm thinking about buying one
even though I already have a ThinkPad running Vista. I'm looking
for more input about running Windows software (Stata, S-Plus, SAS
primarily) on the MAC as well as creating Word and PowerPoint files
on the MAC that my Window's based client can read. Any comments or
suggestions?
Thanks,
Walt
Phil Schumm wrote:
On Jun 26, 2008, at 8:24 AM, Stefano Costalli wrote:
I have a non-Stata question, but I need an answer to use stata at
its best!
So far I have used Stata 9.2 SE on my laptop (IBM T series), but
now I have to give it back to my department and I have some
doubts. I'm choosing between the new version of IBM T Series and
Macbook pro. My old IBM worked very well, but I like also the
Macbook pro. Unfortunately I don't have colleagues or friends who
use Stata on a Mac machine. Could anyone give me some feedback?
Has anyone done any comparison? Good functioning of Stata will be
an essential variable in my decision..
Thanks to StataCorp, you pretty much get the same Stata experience
on any OS they support. There are some minor GUI differences, of
course; being primarily an OS X user, I vastly prefer the OS X
version (e.g., fonts look better, interface is cleaner, etc.).
But, I'll admit, there's an element of subjectivity to this.
One current issue for OS X is that the 64-bit version of Stata for
OS X is not yet available. It is, however, under active
development, and may be available by the end of the year (see http://www.stata.com/statalist/archive/2008-05/msg00916.html)
. Thus, unless you need the 64-bit version immediately, this
shouldn't be an issue.
Given that Stata is pretty much the same on every platform, the
choice then really boils down to other factors. And for scientific
computing, an Intel Mac is a shining star. You have the full power
of Unix with a nice GUI, and, with the Intel Macs, you can even run
Linux or Windows (without a performance penalty and without dual-
booting) if you need to.
One more thing: unless you're a die-hard Emacs (or perhaps even vi)
user, one of the single best text editors available (TextMate) is
only available for the Mac. TextMate makes coding, writing, etc. a
dream, and is fantastic for editing Stata do-files. Even if I
didn't already prefer OS X for other reasons, I'd still consider
TextMate a reason to switch.
-- Phil
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________________________
Walter R. Paczkowski, Ph.D.
Data Analytics Corp.
44 Hamilton Lane
Plainsboro, NJ 08536
________________________
(V) 609-936-8999
(F) 609-936-3733
[email protected]
www.dataanalyticscorp.com
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* http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/