RE: st: Likelihood Maximisation for the exponential model in Survival Analysis

[Dev Vencappa <Dev.Vencappa@nottingham.ac.uk>]

Dear Maarten,

 Thanks very much - I knew I had overlooked something very simple. Thanks for clarifying.

Regards,
Dev

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From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Maarten Buis
Sent: 24 October 2013 10:28
To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: st: Likelihood Maximisation for the exponential model in Survival Analysis

In your -ml model- you specify two equation, while a exponential model only has one. All you need to do is replace:

ml model lf myexp_ph_lf (studytime died = drug2 drug3 age) /lnlam

with

ml model lf myexp_ph_lf (studytime died = drug2 drug3 age)

You can than leave out the -difficult tech(nr bhhh dfp bfgs)- options.

Note that your ml model only returns coefficients, while -streg- by default returns hazard ratios. To make sure your -streg- command returns comparable numbers you need to add the -nohr- option to -streg-. You'll than see that the two give exactly the same results.

-- Maarten

On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Dev Vencappa <Dev.Vencappa@nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> My apologies,
>
>  The previous email seems to have messed up the lines in the codes. Edited codes are below. Any help on this would be very much appreciated.
>
> capture program drop myexp_ph_lf
> program myexp_ph_lf
>                 *version 8.1
>                 args lnf llam
>                 quietly {
>                                 replace `lnf' = $ML_y2*`llam'- exp(`llam')*$ML_y1
>                                 }
> end
>
> *testing the above with the cancer data set:
>
> sysuse cancer, clear
> g drug2=drug==2
> g drug3=drug==3
> ml model lf myexp_ph_lf (studytime died = drug2 drug3 age) /lnlam ml 
> check  ml search  ml maximize, difficult tech(nr bhhh dfp bfgs)
>
> *but STATA streg command seems to work fine.
>
> stset studytime, failure(died)
> streg drug2 drug3 age, d(exponential)
>
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Dev
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu 
> [mailto:owner-statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu] On Behalf Of Dev 
> Vencappa
> Sent: 24 October 2013 09:27
> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> Subject: st: Likelihood Maximisation for the exponential model in 
> Survival Analysis
>
> Dear Stata users,
>
> My attempt to code and maximise the log-likelihood from scratch for the exponential model has failed (message "could not calculate numerical derivatives -- flat or discontinuous region encountered"). My codes using the lf method are below and I would very much appreciate some pointers as to where I am going wrong with this?
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Dev
>
>
> capture program drop myexp_ph_lf
> program myexp_ph_lf
>                 *version 8.1
>                 args lnf llam
>                 quietly {
>                                 replace `lnf' = $ML_y2*`llam'- exp(`llam')*$ML_y1
>                                 }
> end
>
>
> *testing the above with the cancer data set:
>
> sysuse cancer, clear
> g drug2=drug==2
> g drug3=drug==3
> ml model lf myexp_ph_lf (studytime died = drug2 drug3 age) /lnlam ml 
> check  ml search  ml maximize, difficult tech(nr bhhh dfp bfgs)
>
> *but STATA streg command seems to work fine.
> stset studytime, failure(died)
> streg drug2 drug3 age, d(exponential)
>
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