Re: st: How to re-program -save9- for Stata 13?

[Nick Cox <njcoxstata@gmail.com>]

Not to knock SPSS, although for many that qualifies as an acceptable
sport, but what drives people to use SPSS if they also have access to
Stata?

I am not trying to be ironic here. It is (literally) decades, i.e.
sometime last century I think, since I last used SPSS, so I am quite
out of touch on its relative strengths.

Please take as understood that some users prefer its user interface.



Nick
njcoxstata@gmail.com


On 15 October 2013 16:05, Sergiy Radyakin <serjradyakin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stas,
>
> Stata 8 and 9 share the same data format (specification 113), so
> although SPSS says it writes in 5-8, it should equally read and write
> 9 (perhaps the menu text was designed at the time Stata 9 did not
> exist yet). Here is another reference it supports 9:
> http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/mult_pkg/faq/fromStata_toSPSS.htm
>
> But introduction of reading Stata dataset capability was apparently
> added in version 14 (contrary to the above reference):
> http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/spssstat/v20r0m0/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.spss.statistics.help%2Fwhatsnew_14.0.htm
>
> Furthermore, it seems the request for support of newer Stata formats
> was requested still in the 17th generation of SPSS:
> http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21477575
>
> Best, Sergiy Radyakin
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Stas Kolenikov <skolenik@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Sergiy,
>>
>> regarding 2), I have access at work to SPSS 21 that seems to work with
>> Stata 8 files (at least their internal "Save As" gives options from
>> Stata 5 through Stata 8). From Stata 12 that I have at work, the
>> -save-d files (under version 12) cannot be read by SPSS, but -saveold-
>> produces the version-8-compatible data set that SPSS can work with.
>>
>> -- Stas Kolenikov, PhD, PStat (ASA, SSC)
>> -- Senior Survey Statistician, Abt SRBI
>> -- Opinions stated in this email are mine only, and do not reflect the
>> position of my employer
>> -- http://stas.kolenikov.name
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Sergiy Radyakin <serjradyakin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Marco,
>>>
>>> could you please explain a bit, why you see a need for such a program?
>>> If you have Stata 13, this means you can use -saveold- to save in the
>>> previous version, then following this FAQ all the way until version 5
>>> if necessary:
>>> http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/data-management/save-for-previous-version/
>>>
>>> If you don't have Stata 13, then you use -use13- to load the data into
>>> Stata 10 or later.
>>> http://radyakin.org/transfer/use13/use13.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> So I see potential clients as:
>>> 1) people having Stata 9 and no access to newer versions;
>>> 2) people having non-Stata software that can read dta format of 9, but
>>> not newer and the software is not going to be updated, and there is no
>>> access to Stata 10+
>>>
>>> Regarding 1) I was told the # is pretty small, but I don't know what
>>> 'small' really is. Regarding 2) I am interested in what is out there
>>> (regardless whether maintained or not). Can we have a headcount of the
>>> programs that directly read Stata datasets? Let me start:
>>> ADePT v.5.50.5001.23617 (supports data from Stata 8 to 13)
>>> ADePT Map v2 (supports data from Stata 8-11)
>>> R (with package foreign) (supports data from Stata 5 to 12)
>>> SPSS v.15+ (supports data from Stata X?X to 9?)
>>> Stat/Transfer (supports data from any version of Stata)
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> Regarding the implementation it is not at all difficult: the current
>>> code of use13 and use10 contains all the necessary procedures to
>>> implement save9 which I can do if there is any significant demand.
>>>
>>> Best, Sergiy Radyakin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Marco Ercolani <m.g.ercolani@bham.ac.uk> wrote:
>>>> Dear Statalisters,
>>>>
>>>> I am asking for suggestions on how I can re-program -save9- so that it will work in Stata 13.
>>>> In other words, so it will save data in a Stata 9 format from within Stata 13.
>>>> I can think of two possible strategies to achieve this within Stata 13:
>>>>
>>>> Strategy 1: Edit the contents of the dataset so they conform to Stata 9 protocols, save the file,
>>>> then edit the the file header so that it appears to have been saved by Stata 9.
>>>>
>>>> Strategy 2: Use an existing save facility in Stata 13 that would allow me to impose limits on the
>>>> data so it respects Stata 9 protocols. Does such a save facility exist?
>>>>
>>>> Any help on the above two approaches or helpful suggestions for a "third way" would be welcome.
>>>>
>>>>  Marco Ercolani
>>>>  Department of Economics
>>>>  University of Birmingham
>>>>
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