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Re: st: example about choice experiment datasheet
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elisabetta capobianco <[email protected]>
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Re: st: example about choice experiment datasheet
Date
Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:43:51 +0100
Ok Arne,
now It's clear and I have had good results.
Just a doubt. When I put inside the socio-demographic variables, the
output has the four alternatives 1,2,3,4, even if I write nocons.
I don't understand the meaning of this output considering that I have
unlabelled alternatives.
Is however correct this result?
Thank you,
Elisabetta
2012/11/24 Arne Risa Hole <[email protected]>:
> Elisabetta,
>
> The "case" variable must a unique identifier for each choice. You can
> generate it like this
>
> egen caseid = group(id scenario)
>
> The "alt" variable should be coded 1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4 etc. (not
> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,...).
>
> Arne
>
> On 24 November 2012 16:04, elisabetta capobianco
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thank you Arne, I have taken the book.
>> My problem is that I have 16 scenarios for id (n=131) with 4 different
>> alternatives for each scenario .
>> So in the dataset I have written for each id non 4 alternatives
>> (1,2,3,4) but 64 alternatives. Is it correct?
>>
>>
>>
>> id scenario alt
>> 1 1 1
>> 1 1 2
>> 1 1 3
>> 1 1 4
>> 1 2 5(or1?)
>> 1 2 6(or2?)
>> 1 2 7(or3?)
>> 1 2 8 (or4?)
>> 1 3 9(or1?)
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> .
>> 1 16 64
>> 2 1 1
>> .
>> .
>> And when I wrote:
>> asclogit choice organic price, case(id) alternatives(car) noconst
>>
>> case is id or scenario? I suppose scenario. But if is scenario I don't
>> know how to use id!
>> And alternatives are the 64 alternatives?
>>
>>
>> Thank you so much for your help.
>>
>> elisabetta
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/11/23 Arne Risa Hole <[email protected]>:
>>> Elisabetta
>>>
>>> I am fairly sure that you can use -asclogit- to do what you want. If
>>> you don't want alternative-specific constants you can use the
>>> -noconst- option. Modifying the example in the help-file slightly:
>>>
>>> webuse choice
>>> asclogit choice dealer, case(id) alternatives(car) noconst
>>>
>>> As you can see the only coefficient which is estimated in this case is
>>> the one for the dealer attribute, which is analogous to the organic
>>> and price attributes in your experiment. In your case the variable
>>> that identifies the alternatives for each case ("car" in the example)
>>> can simply take the values 1, 2, 3 and 4 since your alternatives are
>>> unlabelled.
>>>
>>> I also recommend taking a look at a basic choice modelling text before
>>> proceeding, such as
>>> http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Applied_Choice_Analysis.html?id=8yZrtCCABAgC.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Arne
>>>
>>> On 23 November 2012 13:25, elisabetta capobianco
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I think that asclogit is not the right comand for me.
>>>> Because I have 4 unlabeled alternatives, 16 diferrent scenarios with 4
>>>> alternatives for 131 individuals. So my indipendent viariables are the
>>>> attributes and dipendent variables the utility for each level of
>>>> attribute.
>>>> I need to know the importance of every level, not of alternatives.
>>>> Ex.:n=131
>>>> scenario 1) A B C D
>>>> organic org no org no org org
>>>> price 4 8 4 4
>>>> scenario 2) A B C D
>>>> organic no org no org org no org
>>>> price 12 16 8 8
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> .
>>>> Perhaps with mixlogit? Because the example is on a specific
>>>> alternative, car or bus.
>>>> I instead need to know the coefficient of attributes and levels.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if I have explained well, I hope!
>>>>
>>>> e
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2012/11/23 Arne Risa Hole <[email protected]>:
>>>>> -help asclogit_postestimation-
>>>>>
>>>>> Arne
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 November 2012 11:05, elisabetta capobianco
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Dear Arne,
>>>>>> i need to estimate the marginal effect of levels on attributes of my choice.
>>>>>> Is it possible?
>>>>>> es:
>>>>>> about meat:
>>>>>> attribute level
>>>>>> label organic/not organic
>>>>>> origin local abroad
>>>>>> prize 4/8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would know the utility for each level of each attribute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>> elisabetta
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/11/21 elisabetta capobianco <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>> Thank you so much Arne!!!
>>>>>>> I'm creating the data set and then i'll try to run in Stata!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Elisabetta
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2012/11/20 Arne Risa Hole <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> Elisabetta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -mlogit- is not very useful to model data from choice experiments as
>>>>>>>> it does not allow alternative-specific explanatory variables.
>>>>>>>> -asclogit- requires your data to be in long form (one row per
>>>>>>>> alternative); see -help asclogit- and the first example in the paper I
>>>>>>>> mentioned in my last email.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Arne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 20 November 2012 10:04, elisabetta capobianco
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thank you Arne, I want to use asclogit and mlogit for my choice modelling.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2012/11/19 Arne Risa Hole <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>> Elisabetta
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As Jay says the correct data form depends on the estimation command
>>>>>>>>>> you are planning to use, so this is a very important piece of
>>>>>>>>>> information that you haven't given us. You may find the examples in
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.stata-journal.com/article.html?article=st0133 useful.
>>>>>>>>>> Generally speaking the best strategy is to import the data into Stata
>>>>>>>>>> and then use commands like -reshape- to convert the data into the form
>>>>>>>>>> you want, rather than trying to do this in Excel.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Arne
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 November 2012 15:51, elisabetta capobianco
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your answer!
>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to do a mixed logit, but I have found a data set on help file
>>>>>>>>>>>> with just one choice set. I have 16 choice sets and I don't know how
>>>>>>>>>>>> to fil the excel data set.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2012/11/18 JVerkuilen (Gmail) <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 4:11 AM, elisabetta capobianco
>>>>>>>>>>>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi, I'm new of statalist and stata!
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I'm working on choice experiment about food preferences in schools.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I have 4 alternatives unlabelled, 4 attributes and 4 levels, 130
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I have the data base in excel, but before insheet the file in stata
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> i'm not sure that i have put the data in the right mode in the excel
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> file.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Have you got an example on a excel datasheet about choice modelling?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Just an example to understand how to organize my datasheet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > It depends on what analysis you want to use. -clogit- and procedures
>>>>>>>>>>>> > like it that are using alternative-specific predictors use the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> > basic format, which is specified in the help file. You can see the
>>>>>>>>>>>> > example dataset there. Essentially it is a "long" format like
>>>>>>>>>>>> > person-period in a growth model with time-varying covariates.
>>>>>>>>>>>> > *
>>>>>>>>>>>> > * For searches and help try:
>>>>>>>>>>>> > * http://www.stata.com/help.cgi?search
>>>>>>>>>>>> > * http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/resources/statalist-faq/
>>>>>>>>>>>> > * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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