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st: AW: AW: actually vs. reported dropped observations xtlogit


From   "Seliger Florian" <[email protected]>
To   "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Subject   st: AW: AW: actually vs. reported dropped observations xtlogit
Date   Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:10:46 +0000

Dear Klaus,

It is clear that the number of observations in the fe-model can be lower than with re.

My question is why the number of dropped observations reported by STATA (because of no within-group variance in the dependent variable) is higher than the number of observations that have been actually dropped (calculated as N_re - N_fe).


Any help is appreciated.



Best,
Florian











-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Klaus Pforr
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. November 2012 11:57
An: [email protected]
Betreff: st: AW: actually vs. reported dropped observations xtlogit

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Dear Florian,

the fe-model drops all observations without within-group variance of the dependent variable, whereas the re-model drops only observation for which the dependent variable can be perfectly predicted with the independet variables. Therefore, the number of observations for fe can be lower as for the re.

webuse union, clear
xtlogit union age grade, fe
xtlogit union age grade, re

you can force to use the same estimation sample by restriction to e(sample).

webuse union, clear
xtlogit union age grade, fe
xtlogit union age grade if e(sample), re

best

Klaus

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Seliger Florian
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. November 2012 10:50
An: '[email protected]'
Betreff: st: actually vs. reported dropped observations xtlogit

Dear Statalist,
 
Using a fixed effects logit model (xtlogit, fe), STATA reports that it drops
N=3540 observations because all positive or all negative outcomes.
This is understandable given the way how "xtlogit, fe" works.
 
However, in the corresponding random effects model, we have N=4246
observations.
In the fixed effects model, we have N=984 observations.
 
4246-984=3262 !
 
3263 is smaller than 3540. Hence, STATA reports to have dropped more
observations than it actually did.
 
Do you have an explanation?
 
 
Thank you for your consideration.
 
 
 
Best wishes,
Florian 
 


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