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Re: st: Stumped...xtmixed and ANOVA F-stats not agreeing for balanced design
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"Joseph Coveney" <[email protected]>
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Re: st: Stumped...xtmixed and ANOVA F-stats not agreeing for balanced design
Date
Sun, 8 May 2011 17:20:14 +0900
David Airey wrote:
Math is helpful! I think I remember reading the mixed model routine in JMP 9
allows negative estimates of variance components. I don't quite understand the
choice between SAS and StataCorp statisticians on this point.
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I get the impression that the NOBOUND option of PROC MIXED is used more often
than not for diagnostic purposes for a nonpositive-definite G matrix, so it
might not be so much a difference between statisticians.
Joseph Coveney
Math would be even more helpful if I could do it:
> MS_e = 0.00273899 = sigma2_e
> MS_s#a = 0.012825848 = sigma2_e + 2 * sigma2_s#a
> MS_s#b = 0.014614037 = sigma2_e + 3 * sigma2_s#b
> MS_s = 0.02026831 = sigma2_e + 6 * sigma2_s + 2 * sigma2_s#a + 3 * sigma2_s#b
>
> sigma2_s#a = (0.012825848 - 0.00273899) / 2 = 0.00504343
> sigma2_s#b = (0.014614037 - 0.00273899) / 3 = 0.00395835
> sigma2_s = (0.02026831 - 0.01008686 - 0.01187505) / 6 = -0.00028227
sigma2_s = (0.02026831 - 0.00273899 - 0.01008686 - 0.01187505) / 6 = -0.00073876
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