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RE: st: RE: Questions on ivprobit (probit model with an endogenous regressor)


From   "Schaffer, Mark E" <[email protected]>
To   <[email protected]>
Subject   RE: st: RE: Questions on ivprobit (probit model with an endogenous regressor)
Date   Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:03:21 -0000

Stephen,

The output below is messy because of all the line breaks, so I'll reply up here.

- You are right, there is a problem with the syntax, though it probably matters only for appearances.  The varlist following the = should have only the EXCLUDED instruments, and should not include instruments that are also exogneous regressors.  Thus you have

ivprobit vrics mhol acmt iacm bdze mdir dual ihol aud_1 aud_2 aud_3 aud_4 size perf levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 ind_6 ind_7 ind_8 grth efin optn (bdin = dual ihol mhol efin size levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 ind_6 ind_7 ind_8 optn vrics_1), first

But it should be

ivprobit vrics mhol acmt iacm bdze mdir dual ihol aud_1 aud_2 aud_3 aud_4 size perf levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 ind_6 ind_7 ind_8 grth efin optn (bdin = vrics_1), first

I am pretty sure this doesn't matter, though, in terms of results - Stata will (probably?) take care of the collinearities in the varlists in such a way that you will get the same results either way.

- This probably also explains your query about the number of "instrumented variables", though presumably you actually mean "instrumental variables" or just "instruments" ("instrumentED variables" are endogenous regressors).

- In your estimation results, you have a large number of statistically insignificant regressors.  This could be a sign of multicollinearity (I'm not sure how you know you don't have this problem).  In any case, it may explain why it takes so long for your model to converge.

- The statement at the end

note: 47 failures and 30 successes completely determined

is a common error message in Stata output for limited dependent variable models (logit, probit, etc.).  Have a look at the FAQ for the logit case:

http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/stat/logitcd.html

Cheers,
Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:51 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: Schaffer, Mark E
> Subject: Re: st: RE: Questions on ivprobit (probit model with 
> an endogenous regressor)
> 
> Hi Mark:
> 
> Thanks for your prompt response to my questions.  I am 
> reposing three of the earlier questions, which you needed 
> more information.  I have now provided enough information 
> below to enable you to help me.
> 
> 1. Is there anything with my syntax below? If yes, how can it 
> be corrected? 
> 
> ivprobit vrics mhol acmt iacm bdze mdir dual ihol aud_1 aud_2 
> aud_3 aud_4 size perf levg  ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 
> ind_6 ind_7 ind_8 grth efin optn (bdin = dual ihol mhol fcash 
> size levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 ind_6 ind_7 ind_8 
> optn vrics_1), first 
> 
> 2. Stata increases the number of the instrumented variables 
> in its results than I originally specified in the syntax?  
> Why that?  Is it because my model is under-identified?
> 
> 3. For the fitting of the full model (i.e., probit model with 
> the endogenous regressor), Stata goes through iteration from 
> 1 to 1070, reporting that the intervening iterations (i.e., 1 
> to 1068) are not concave.  Why this long iteration?  Does it 
> suggest that the model is mis-specified?  Or implies that the 
> results are not correct?  I DON'T HAVE MULTICOLLINEARITY 
> PROBLEM IN THE DATA.
> 
> The following are the equations I have been estimating with 
> the ivprobit:
> 
> BDIN, = F(&dgr;0 + &dgr;1MHOL + &dgr;2BDZE + &dgr;3DUAL + &dgr;4IHOL + &dgr;5SIZE + &dgr;6LEVG
> + &dgr;7GRTH +   + &dgr;17EFIN + &dgr;18OPTN + &dgr;19VRICSt_1)		
>                                     (1)
> 
> Prob (VRICS = 1) = F(&bgr;0 + &bgr;1MHOL + &bgr;2ACMT + &bgr;3IACM + &bgr;4BDZE 
> + &bgr;5FT_BDIN + &bgr;6MDIR + &bgr;7DUAL + &bgr;b8IHOL +   + &bgr;14SIZE
> + &bgr;15PERF + &bgr;16LEVG +   + &bgr;26GRTH + &bgr;27EFIN + &bgr;28OPTN)	
> 			     (2)
> 
> Equation 2 is the model of interest.  FT_BDIN in equation 2 
> is the fitted values of BDIN in equation 1.  My sample size 
> is 198 companies (110 experimental and 88 control sub-sample).
> 
> The syntax and results are as follows:
> 
> ivprobit vrics mhol acmt iacm bdze mdir dual ihol aud_1 aud_2 
> aud_3 aud_4 size perf levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 
> ind_6 ind_7 ind_8 grth efin optn (bdin = dual ihol mhol efin 
> size levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 ind_6 ind_7 ind_8 
> optn vrics_1), first Fitting exogenous probit model
> 
> Iteration 0:   log likelihood = -136.01839
> .
> Iteration 6:   log likelihood = -103.21347
> 
> Fitting full model
> 
> Iteration 0:   log likelihood = -507.53953  (not concave)
> Iteration 1:   log likelihood = -507.44146  (not concave)
> .
> .
> Iteration 1061:log likelihood = -467.50251  (backed up) 
> Iteration 1062:log likelihood = -465.17425 Iteration 1063:log 
> likelihood = -462.61643 .
> .
> Iteration 1070:log likelihood =  -462.0811  
> 
> Probit model with endogenous regressors           Number of 
> obs   =        198
>                                                               
>                Wald chi2(26)   =     392.55
> Log likelihood =  -462.0811                                  
> Prob > chi2     =     0.0000
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
>              |      Coef.   Std. Err.      z    P>|z|     
> [95% Conf. Interval]
> -------------+------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> -------------+------
> vrics           |
>            bdin |    .535787   .0270656    19.80   0.000     
> .4827393    .5888347
>           mhol |   .0082955   .6629267     0.01   0.990    
> -1.291017    1.307608
>           acmt |   .0173609   .0293927     0.59   0.555    
> -.0402477    .0749695
>           iacm |  -.2845267   .2214701    -1.28   0.199    
> -.7186002    .1495468
>          bdze |   .1125746   .0368413     3.06   0.002      
> .040367    .1847823
>           mdir |  -.1984201   .0348804    -5.69   0.000    
> -.2667844   -.1300558
>           dual |   .3046553   .1763825     1.73   0.084     
> -.041048    .6503587
>             ihol |   .5343345   .3381111     1.58   0.114    
> -.1283511     1.19702
>        aud_1 |   -.118587   .2618686    -0.45   0.651      
> -.63184    .3946661
>        aud_2 |  -.1315854   .1602961    -0.82   0.412    
> -.4457599    .1825892
>        aud_3 |  -.2391904   .3023197    -0.79   0.429    
> -.8317261    .3533454
>        aud_4 |  -.1764671   .2734199    -0.65   0.519    
> -.7123601     .359426
>            size |   -.394326    .085888    -4.59   0.000    
> -.5626634   -.2259885
>           perf |   .1184288   .5215651     0.23   0.820      
> -.90382    1.140678
>           levg |  -.6340103   .4221428    -1.50   0.133    
> -1.461395    .1933744
>        ind_1 |    .638568   .4017463     1.59   0.112    
> -.1488403    1.425976
>        ind_2 |   .5798336   .3313281     1.75   0.080    
> -.0695576    1.229225
>        ind_3 |   .7170456   .3188755     2.25   0.025     
> .0920611     1.34203
>        ind_4 |   .3894297   .3882769     1.00   0.316     
> -.371579    1.150438
>        ind_5 |   .7477128   .3261907     2.29   0.022     
> .1083907    1.387035
>        ind_6 |   .8033681   .4126983     1.95   0.052    
> -.0055056    1.612242
>        ind_7 |   .5320546   .4018902     1.32   0.186    
> -.2556357    1.319745
>        ind_8 |   1.585647   .5801551     2.73   0.006     
> .4485636     2.72273
>         grth |   .0025123   .0013356     1.88   0.060    
> -.0001053    .0051299
>          efin |   .0080272   .0116433     0.69   0.491    
> -.0147932    .0308476
>         optn |   .0069244    .011954     0.58   0.562    
> -.0165049    .0303537
>        _cons |     7.2861   1.909368     3.82   0.000     
> 3.543807    11.02839
> -------------+------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> -------------+------
> bdin         |
>         mhol |   .0378184   1.235286     0.03   0.976    
> -2.383298    2.458935
>         acmt |   -.033273   .0544709    -0.61   0.541    
> -.1400339     .073488
>         iacm |    .596355    .367546     1.62   0.105    
> -.1240219    1.316732
>         bdze |  -.2195357   .0680645    -3.23   0.001    
> -.3529396   -.0861318
>          mdir |   .3700483   .0622494     5.94   0.000     
> .2480418    .4920548
>           dual |   -.573009    .326602    -1.75   0.079    
> -1.213137    .0671192
>          ihol |  -1.012138   .6303383    -1.61   0.108    
> -2.247578    .2233028
>        aud_1 |     .14425   .4679218     0.31   0.758    
> -.7728599     1.06136
>        aud_2 |   .1355325    .236811     0.57   0.567    
> -.3286086    .5996736
>        aud_3 |    .300847   .4963293     0.61   0.544    
> -.6719404    1.273634
>        aud_4 |   .2759295   .4846338     0.57   0.569    
> -.6739352    1.225794
>           size |   .7537389   .1458796     5.17   0.000     
> .4678201    1.039658
>          perf |   -.181126   .9590768    -0.19   0.850    
> -2.060882     1.69863
>          levg |   1.132908   .7862537     1.44   0.150    
> -.4081206    2.673937
>        ind_1 |  -1.167724    .744777    -1.57   0.117    
> -2.627461    .2920118
>        ind_2 |  -1.046297   .6184434    -1.69   0.091    
> -2.258424    .1658298
>        ind_3 |  -1.318878    .590602    -2.23   0.026    
> -2.476436   -.1613189
>        ind_4 |  -.7132557    .721654    -0.99   0.323    
> -2.127672    .7011601
>        ind_5 |  -1.400158   .6024688    -2.32   0.020    
> -2.580976   -.2193413
>        ind_6 |  -1.427494   .7589549    -1.88   0.060    
> -2.915018    .0600307
>        ind_7 |  -1.033129   .7444047    -1.39   0.165    
> -2.492135    .4258778
>        ind_8 |  -2.996058   1.066981    -2.81   0.005    
> -5.087302   -.9048135
>          grth |  -.0046962   .0024757    -1.90   0.058    
> -.0095485     .000156
>           efin |  -.0175522   .0208806    -0.84   0.401    
> -.0584774    .0233729
>          optn |  -.0136099   .0222878    -0.61   0.541    
> -.0572931    .0300734
>      vrics_1 |    .198787   .3208153     0.62   0.536    
> -.4299995    .8275734
>        _cons |  -13.92576   3.327674    -4.18   0.000    
> -20.44788   -7.403639
> -------------+------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> -------------+------
>      /athrho |  -3.964625   1.619449    -2.45   0.014    
> -7.138687   -.7905633
>     /lnsigma |   .6231125    .050253    12.40   0.000     
> .5246184    .7216065
> -------------+------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> -------------+------
>          rho |  -.9992801   .0023307                     
> -.9999987    -.658728
>        sigma |   1.864723   .0937079                      
> 1.689814    2.057736
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> Instrumented:  bdin
> Instruments:   mhol acmt iacm bdze mdir dual ihol aud_1 aud_2 
> aud_3 aud_4 size
>                perf levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 ind_6 
> ind_7 ind_8 grth
>                efin optn vrics_1*
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> Wald test of exogeneity (/athrho = 0): chi2(1) =     5.99 
> Prob > chi2 = 0.0144
> 
> *Some of the instrumented variables were not specified in the 
> original syntax.
> 
> Below is the syntax and results when I used two-step 
> estimator.  What does the note at the bottom of the results mean?
> 
> ivprobit vrics mhol acmt iacm bdze mdir dual ihol aud_1 aud_2 
> aud_3 aud_4 size perf levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 
> ind_6 ind_7 ind_8 grth efin optn (bdin = dual ihol mhol efin 
> size levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 ind_6 ind_7 ind _8 
> optn vrics_1), twostep first
> 
> Checking reduced-form model
> First stage regression
> 
>       Source |       SS       df       MS                     
>       Number of obs =     198
> -------------+------------------------------                  
>      F( 26,   171) =    5.18
>        Model |  542.099097    26  20.8499653               
> Prob > F      =  0.0000
>     Residual |  688.483679   171  4.02622035           
> R-squared     =  0.4405
> -------------+------------------------------                  
>   Adj R-squared =  0.3555
>        Total |  1230.58278   197  6.24661308              
> Root MSE      =  2.0065
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
>         bdin |      Coef.   Std. Err.      t    P>|t|     
> [95% Conf. Interval]
> -------------+------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> -------------+------
>      vrics_1 |   .1988048   .3453415     0.58   0.566    
> -.4828765    .8804861
>          mhol |   .0378225   1.329227     0.03   0.977    
> -2.585984    2.661629
>         acmt |  -.0332726   .0586135    -0.57   0.571    
> -.1489718    .0824266
>          iacm |   .5963493   .3955089     1.51   0.133    
> -.1843592    1.377058
>          bdze |  -.2195362   .0732413    -3.00   0.003    
> -.3641098   -.0749626
>           mdir |   .3700488   .0669836     5.52   0.000     
> .2378275      .50227
>           dual |  -.5730081   .3514396    -1.63   0.105    
> -1.266727    .1207105
>            ihol |  -1.012142   .6782774    -1.49   0.137    
> -2.351017    .3267326
>        aud_1 |     .14425   .5035061     0.29   0.775    
> -.8496378    1.138138
>        aud_2 |   .1355322   .2548215     0.53   0.596    
> -.3674686     .638533
>        aud_3 |   .3008486   .5340752     0.56   0.574    
> -.7533807    1.355078
>        aud_4 |   .2759339   .5214952     0.53   0.597    
> -.7534632    1.305331
>           size |   .7537372   .1569757     4.80   0.000     
> .4438776    1.063597
>          perf |  -.1811319   1.032013    -0.18   0.861    
> -2.218258    1.855994
>          levg |   1.132905   .8460482     1.34   0.182    
> -.5371384    2.802948
>        ind_1 |  -1.167724    .801416    -1.46   0.147    
> -2.749666    .4142183
>        ind_2 |  -1.046293   .6654784    -1.57   0.118    
> -2.359903    .2673175
>        ind_3 |  -1.318876   .6355171    -2.08   0.039    
> -2.573345   -.0644069
>        ind_4 |  -.7132544   .7765309    -0.92   0.360    
> -2.246075    .8195664
>        ind_5 |  -1.400157   .6482868    -2.16   0.032    
> -2.679832   -.1204813
>        ind_6 |  -1.427492   .8166718    -1.75   0.082    
> -3.039548    .1845637
>        ind_7 |  -1.033129   .8010162    -1.29   0.199    
> -2.614282    .5480241
>        ind_8 |  -2.996057   1.148121    -2.61   0.010    
> -5.262373   -.7297423
>         grth |  -.0046962    .002664    -1.76   0.080    
> -.0099548    .0005623
>          efin |  -.0175522   .0224685    -0.78   0.436    
> -.0619036    .0267992
>         optn |  -.0136099   .0239828    -0.57   0.571    
> -.0609505    .0337306
>        _cons |  -13.92572   3.580775    -3.89   0.000    
> -20.99394   -6.857512
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> 
> Two-step probit with endogenous regressors        Number of 
> obs   =       198
>                                                               
>                    Wald chi2(26)   =      0.99
>                                                               
>                      Prob > chi2     =    1.0000
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
>              |      Coef.   Std. Err.      z    P>|z|     
> [95% Conf. Interval]
> -------------+------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> -------------+------
>           bdin |   14.12199   24.61414     0.57   0.566    
> -34.12084    62.36482
>           mhol |   .2186578   18.79424     0.01   0.991    
> -36.61738    37.05469
>           acmt |   .4575839   1.235632     0.37   0.711     
> -1.96421    2.879378
>           iacm |   -7.49924   17.15531    -0.44   0.662    
> -41.12302    26.12454
>          bdze |   2.967177   5.363456     0.55   0.580    
> -7.545004    13.47936
>          mdir |   -5.22986   9.026449    -0.58   0.562    
> -22.92138    12.46166
>          dual |   8.029926   15.17887     0.53   0.597    
> -21.72012    37.77997
>            ihol |   14.08375   25.45977     0.55   0.580    
> -35.81648    63.98398
>        aud_1 |  -3.125751   7.994754    -0.39   0.696    
> -18.79518    12.54368
>        aud_2 |  -3.468392   5.087113    -0.68   0.495    
> -13.43895    6.502165
>        aud_3 |  -6.304659   10.32934    -0.61   0.542    
> -26.54979    13.94047
>        aud_4 |  -4.651355   9.189619    -0.51   0.613    
> -22.66268    13.35997
>           size |  -10.39339   19.15959    -0.54   0.587     
> -47.9455    27.15873
>          perf |   3.121618   14.83004     0.21   0.833    
> -25.94473    32.18797
>          levg |  -16.71092   31.29799    -0.53   0.593    
> -78.05385    44.63201
>        ind_1 |   16.83106   30.99911     0.54   0.587    
> -43.92608    77.58821
>        ind_2 |   15.28294   28.46859     0.54   0.591    
> -40.51448    71.08035
>        ind_3 |   18.89951   34.12934     0.55   0.580    
> -47.99277    85.79179
>        ind_4 |   10.26438    21.0224     0.49   0.625    
> -30.93877    51.46753
>        ind_5 |   19.70779   36.16063     0.55   0.586    
> -51.16575    90.58132
>        ind_6 |   21.17483   37.29913     0.57   0.570    
> -51.93013    94.27978
>        ind_7 |   14.02357    27.7139     0.51   0.613    
> -40.29468    68.34181
>        ind_8 |   41.79358   75.57157     0.55   0.580     
> -106.324    189.9111
>          grth |   .0662178   .1233329     0.54   0.591    
> -.1755102    .3079459
>           efin |   .2115723   .5480824     0.39   0.699    
> -.8626495    1.285794
>          optn |   .1825097   .4637365     0.39   0.694    
> -.7263971    1.091416
>        _cons |   192.0422   356.4177     0.54   0.590    
> -506.5236    890.6081
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> Instrumented:  bdin
> Instruments:   mhol acmt iacm bdze mdir dual ihol aud_1 aud_2 
> aud_3 aud_4
>                size perf levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 
> ind_6 ind_7
>                ind_8 grth efin optn vrics_1
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> Wald test of exogeneity:     chi2(1) =    51.79           
> Prob > chi2 = 0.0000
> 
> note: 47 failures and 30 successes completely determined.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephen
> 
> ---- "Schaffer wrote: 
> > Stephen,
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected]
> > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> > > [email protected]
> > > Sent: 06 January 2008 21:45
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: st: Questions on ivprobit (probit model with an 
> endogenous 
> > > regressor)
> > > 
> > > Dear colleagues:
> > > 
> > > I need your help with respect to the following questions about 
> > > ivprobit (command for probit model with an endogenous
> > > regressor):
> > > 
> > > 1. Is there anything with my syntax below? If yes, how can it be 
> > > corrected?
> > > 
> > > ivprobit vrics mhol acmt iacm bdze mdir dual ihol aud_1 aud_2
> > > aud_3 aud_4 size perf levg  ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5
> > > ind_6 ind_7 ind_8  rev_gwth  fcash optns (bdin= dual ihol 
> mhol fcash 
> > > size levg ind_1 ind_2 ind_3 ind_4 ind_5 ind_6
> > > ind_7 ind_8 optns vrics_1), first
> > 
> > It's impossible to tell without seeing the actual call to 
> -ivprobit- 
> > and what Stata makes of it.  You should post this.
> > 
> > > 2. The dependent variable, vrics, is a dummy coded 1/0. 
> > > Hence, my use of ivprobit. However, the endogenous 
> regressor, bdin, 
> > > is not. Isn't ivprobit reading the data on bdin as dummy?
> > 
> > No.  It's because you're using the default ML estimator.  
> If you use 
> > the two-step estimator, you'll see that the first-step 
> estimates for 
> > bdin are exactly the same estimates you get if you use -regress-.
> > 
> > > My question is based on the fact that OLS estimates of the bdin 
> > > equation is different from those returned by ivprobit for the 
> > > first-stage regression. Also, Stata 10 reports iteration for 
> > > "Fitting exogenous probit model".
> > > 
> > > 3. Stata increases the number of the instrumented 
> variables in its 
> > > results than I originally specified in the syntax? Why 
> that? Is it 
> > > because my model is under-identified?
> > 
> > Again, it's impossible to tell unless you show us the call to 
> > -ivprobit- and the results.
> > 
> > > 4. For the fitting of the full model (i.e., probit model with the 
> > > endogenous regressor), Stata goes through iteration from
> > > 1 to 1070, reporting that the intervening iterations (i.e., 1 to 
> > > 1068) are not concave. Why this long iteration? Does it 
> suggest that 
> > > the model is mis-specified? Or implies that the results are not 
> > > correct?
> > 
> > You're probably asking a lot of the data, maybe too much.  
> Perhaps you 
> > have some multicollinearity problems.  Are many of the coefficients 
> > insignificant?
> > 
> > > 5. Stata 10 does not report model summary statistics for the 
> > > first-stage regression with bdin as the dependent variable.
> > > Is there any way of getting these statistics?
> > 
> > With the ML estimator, the "first-stage regression" isn't really a 
> > first stage, since it's estimated simultaneously with the main 
> > equation.  I think this means that you just have to get the 
> stats you 
> > want from the main -ivprobit- results with the ML estimator.  You 
> > could switch to the two-step estimator so that the 
> first-stage results 
> > are reproducible with a simple call to -regress-, but this doesn't 
> > seem like a good reason to do this.
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Mark
> > 
> > 
> > Prof. Mark Schaffer
> > Director, CERT
> > Department of Economics
> > School of Management & Languages
> > Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh EH14 4AS tel 
> +44-131-451-3494 / fax 
> > +44-131-451-3296
> > email: [email protected]
> > web: http://www.sml.hw.ac.uk/ecomes
> > 
> > > I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks for your cooperation.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Stephen
> > > --
> > > Stephen Owusu-Ansah, PhD, CIA, CBM
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