Can I please echo Horea's concern about this limitation in Stata and have
this added this to the Stata wishlist? I had rather hoped that this
particular issue would have been resolved for Stata 9.
I agree that -stsatrisk- is a useful package which I use often, but it is
limited in its presentation and its graphs do need manual manipulation
before they can be used more formally. Working in clinical trials in
cancer, Kaplan-Meier plots are our bread and butter.
Yours hopefully,
Matt
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Cox [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 06 June 2005 14:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: st: At risk table
OK; sorry I missed that.
Nick
[email protected]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Horea Feier
> Sent: 06 June 2005 13:49
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: st: At risk table
>
>
> Yes, I am aware of -stsatrisk- (please see my first email).
>
> However, it places by default the values of the subjects at risk
> inside the graphregion.
>
> I was looking for a way to place them instead underneath the graph,
> in a table, as some journals (eg New England Journal of Medicine)
> require.
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Nick Cox wrote:
>
> > On the contrary, Svend referred to -stsatrisk-. See his
> > email again.
> >
> > Nick
> > [email protected]
> >
> > Horea Feier
> >
> >
> >> Thank you for your example script...It shows that you can
> insert the
> >> table, more or less "by hand", but it works.
> >>
> >> In fact I was looking for some program which could create
> this table
> >> automatically, so to say, and be able to place it in a specified
> >> position.
> >>
> >> I understand that you are not aware of such a
> contributed program?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your great example anyway, Horea
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jun 5, 2005, at 4:17 PM, Svend Juul wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Horea asked how to display a number at risk table below a Kaplan-
> >>> Meier graph.
> >>>
> >>> The is the intent of -stsatrisk-, but the author correctly warns
> >>> that it does not always work well.
> >>>
> >>> It can be done, however, but not easily. Start with running -
> >>> stsatrisk- to get the numbers right. Below I show an example of
> >>> constructing the table. It works, but it required quite a bit of
> >>> trial and error. I used -scheme lean1- putting the legend to the
> >>> right of the plot area, to avoid conflict between legend
> and table.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this helps
> >>> Svend
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------
> >>> set scheme lean1
> >>> sts graph ///
> >>> , ///
> >>> by(screengr) per(1000) ///
> >>> fail ///
> >>> clpattern(- l) ///
> >>> title("") ///
> >>> graphregion(margin(b+6)) ///
> >>> plotregion(margin(l=0 b=0)) ///
> >>> xtitle(Months of follow-up) ///
> >>> ytitle("Cumulated AAA mortality per 1000") ///
> >>> xscale(range(0 60)) ///
> >>> xlabel(0(12)60) ///
> >>> ylabel(0(1)5 , format(%1.0f) nogrid) ///
> >>> legend(label(1 "Controls") label(2 "Invited")) ///
> >>> text(-0.93 -5 "Invited" , size(*0.8) place(w)) ///
> >>> text(-1.2 -5 "Controls" , size(*0.8) place(w)) ///
> >>> text(-0.93 0 "6333" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-1.2 0 "6306" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-0.93 12 "6172" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-1.2 12 "6120" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-0.93 24 "5499" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-1.2 24 "5452" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-0.93 36 "4971" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-1.2 36 "4905" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-0.93 48 "4305" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-1.2 48 "4286" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-0.93 60 "3644" , size(*0.8)) ///
> >>> text(-1.2 60 "3657" , size(*0.8))
> >>> -----------------------------------------------------
> >>>
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