Thank you Stas and Constantine.
I have one follow-up question, please. From your
answers I surmise that from all the possible ways
available to adjust for study-site effect, with only 5
OB-GYN clinics, I am better off using -clogit- and not
dummies, nor random effects, nor GEE models. But, how
about logistic regression clustering on study-site, is
that better?
Thank you,
Ricardo.
--- Constantine Daskalakis
<[email protected]> wrote:
> At 12:15 PM 10/29/2004, Ricardo Ovaldia wrote:
> >--- Stas Kolenikov <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Your answer to (2) is not correct: the fixed
> effect
> > > is equivalent to
> > > introducing dummy variables only for the linear
> > > model. For anything
> > > non-linear, the fixed effect is conditioning on
> this
> > > (for the -clogit- > model, you are conditioning
> on >
> >the number of 0's and 1's in each
> > > center), which is some complicated algebra.
> >
> >Thank you Stas. I though that they were equal if
> there
> >was only a single independent categorical variable
> in
> >the model.
> >
> >Then the question remains, am I justified in using
> >-clogit- and not dummies in this situation?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Ricardo.
>
> I am pretty sure that they are asymptotically
> equivalent, provided that the
> number of strata (indicator terms for the centers)
> is small compared to the
> total sample size. Or, to be more precise, that the
> number of observations
> within each stratum is "large." If not, then the
> unconditional logistic
> regression with dummies is biased.
> See Breslow & Day (IARC monograph on case-control
> studies) and Hosmer &
> Lemeshow (Logistic Regression book).
>
>
>
>
>
> The documents accompanying this transmission may
> contain confidential
> health or business information. This information is
> intended for the use of
> the individual or entity named above. If you have
> received this information
> in error, please notify the sender immediately and
> arrange for the return
> or destruction of these documents.
>
>
________________________________________________________________
> Constantine Daskalakis, ScD
> Assistant Professor,
> Biostatistics Section, Thomas Jefferson University,
> 211 S. 9th St. #602, Philadelphia, PA 19107
> Tel: 215-955-5695
> Fax: 215-503-3804
> Email: [email protected]
> Webpage:
> http://www.jefferson.edu/medicine/pharmacology/bio/
>
>
> *
> * For searches and help try:
> *
> http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html
> * http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq
> * http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/
>
=====
Ricardo Ovaldia, MS
Statistician
Oklahoma City, OK
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses.
http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
*
* For searches and help try:
* http://www.stata.com/support/faqs/res/findit.html
* http://www.stata.com/support/statalist/faq
* http://www.ats.ucla.edu/stat/stata/
