Re: st: Re: Another Graph Question

["b. water" <barleywater@hotmail.com>]

Thanks to Alan and Joseph for their replies. It is precisely because of 
Stata v8 graphical functionality that I want to move up from Stata v7. 
However, such a move would not make sense if the very feature I want to 
utilise cannot be utilised due to my ancient OS (window 98). Incidentally, 
the hologram sticker on my window manual says that my window is a second 
edition version. It is not the case that I can just go out and buy latest 
WXP because our IT policy would simply mean that I cannot installed it on my 
desktop (a client machine on a network). So it is quite frustrating for me.

However, I will go ahead anyway with the requisition with some trepidation, 
after all, I can always fall back on v7 (I read somewhere in this thread 
that the two can co-exist). I will report back whether copy paste is 
problematic or otherwise.

bW







> From: ariley@stata.com (Alan Riley)
> Reply-To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> To: statalist@hsphsun2.harvard.edu
> Subject: st: Re: Another Graph Question
> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:23:54 -0600
>
> B. Water (barleywater@hotmail.com) asked how to determine which
> version of Windows 98 he is running, and that was answered by
> Joseph Coveney (jcoveney@bigplanet.com).  B. Water wanted to
> know this because of an earlier discussion about the clipboard
> format being used by Stata and compatibility issues with
> "old" versions of Windows.  B. Water was under the impression
> from an earlier discussion on Statalist that he would be better
> off using Windows 98/SE rather than the original Windows 98.
> This is not the case.
>
> To clear up any confusion, I would like to restate the issue and report 
> what
> we are doing about it.
>
> The most recent executable update of Stata 8 for Windows uses EMF (Enhanced
> Metafile) format as its default clipboard format.  The originally-shipped
> Stata 8 for Windows executable used WMF (Windows Metafile) format as
> the default clipboard format.
>
> The reason for the change is that the WMF format has some issues with
> rotated text (which is used much more extensively in Stata 8 than in
> Stata 7) and filled polygons (which are used in Stata 8's new
> graphics for such things as shaded confidence intervals), while the
> EMF format does not have these issues.
>
> However, we have since found that EMF is not fully supported by
> "old" versions of Windows.  By "old", I mean the line of Windows
> that started with Windows 95, and includes Windows 98, Windows 98/SE,
> and Windows ME.  Windows NT, Windows 2000, and Windows XP can all
> be thought of as "modern" versions of Windows.
>
> We plan on releasing an update early next week which will allow
> users to choose between WMF and EMF format when they copy to the
> clipboard.  The default choice under old versions of Windows will
> be WMF.  The default choice under modern versions of Windows will
> continue to be EMF.
>
> In addition, we are investigating workarounds for the limitations of
> the WMF format in older versions of Windows.
>
> Stata 8 under all versions of Windows has the capability to export
> graphs as either WMF or EMF files.  Simply choose "Save Graph..." from
> the "File" menu and select the output format of choice.  Using this
> method, users of older versions of Windows can export WMF files immediately
> and then import them into Word or other applications of their choice.
>
>
> Alan
> (ariley@stata.com)
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